Dragon Age; Woken

To me Dragon Age generally had a generic lack of identity from the get go.

Alot of excitement for Origins was it releasing in a time when people were claiming PC was dying, le dead, and CRPGs were finally back baby! And then got DA2.

These days, these kind of classic CRPG's are all over Steam now. And this isn't even that anymore.

So can give EA fucking, £70, or pick up some shit like Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire for £7 on sale without their incoming bullshit.

Let me think.

I don't think this new game appeals to people who enjoyed origins 1 or to the people who enjoyed origins 2. It's a watered down bubble gum version of both those games in regards to tone and aesthetic. The combat was different in both those games but it generally had similar vibes in setting and art. This new thing just reeks of fortnite marvel vibes with a pirates of the carribean attitude.

I don't know who this game is appealing too.. and yeah the market is drowning in action RPGs and turn based strategic rpgs, when you look at this slop.. whether you prefer turn based or action there's a 100 games that do either style better. This looks very much half assed.

I can't help but predict this game is DOA.

Maybe I'm wrong.. but as of now this looks like Bioware is about to drop the last nails in its coffin. Wasn't Anthem thier last release?? Yikes!!

Edit: all the promo shit for this games makes me think of that agents of mayhem game (never played it, cus it looked like some slop)

Avoiding the question for the fifth time. Let's try again.🤭

What are the nontraditional characters in this game that BG3 didn't have?

"BG3 at least had traditional fantasy characters."

"It's insane whites are a fringe minority in amidevil fantasy game."

GS published an "article," a full "article," dealing with sexual relationships in this game.

I know some of you guys like that, but I find this crap weird as f.

I like everything I saw in the gameplay trailer minus the generic enemy design. I prefer the hybrid combat of Dragon Age, but I liked the action combat games as well. Unless this winds up being unexcusably woke bs ill probably still get it.

Butt fukin a dwarf ain't going to save this one

@Chutebox: Yeah, I rarely if ever explore romance options in games myself... I don't see the point outside of a cut scene or two if it's a strong point of the plot.

I'm not answering your stupid question 🤣 You never answer mine and yours is irrelevant to the issue.

You made a claim and when asked about the claim, you avoid the question. Then propose a question instead of answering a simple question. Now won't answer because I didn't answer your question which was an avoidance to my question. 🤭 You got checkmate.

What are the nontraditional characters in this game that BG3 didn't have?

"BG3 at least had traditional fantasy characters."

"It's insane whites are a fringe minority in amidevil fantasy game."

Watched the gameplay trailer, looks mid. Will stick this one into the heavy discount category.

Something about that purple is just so unappealing.

Where's the checkmate exactly? I've already told you.

BG3 had some traditional characters... DA:VG has none. It's a full DEI panderfest across the board.

Now your new failed spin is DG:VG has no traditional characters?🤭 Checkmate.😂

That's not spin it's a fact. The only thing that will fail is this game and I look forward to your excuses in the future 🤣

"BG3 had some traditional characters... DA:VG has none"

@Pedro said:

@silentchief said:

That's not spin it's a fact. The only thing that will fail is this game and I look forward to your excuses in the future 🤣

"BG3 had some traditional characters... DA:VG has none"

Your handler needs to take you away from the internet for the day. 🤣

"BG3 had some traditional characters... DA:VG has none"

Watching asmond slowly go from " this looks OK, this is fine, this is good"

To "..whats going on here.. wait where's the gameplay.."

To " yeah this is shit. It's shit"

Lolololol

@Pedro said:

"BG3 had some traditional characters... DA:VG has none"

It doesn't.

Who would it be?

The one legged middle aged Indian lady?

The short fat red headed dwarf lady?

The Asian or black elf?

The necromancer who looks like a gay uncle?

Or maybe the Arabian assasin or the beastly dragon lady..?

Who is it exactly? 🤣

@silentchief said:

@Pedro said:

"BG3 had some traditional characters... DA:VG has none"

It doesn't.

Who would it be?

The one legged middle aged Indian lady?

The short fat red headed dwarf lady?

The Asian or black elf?

The necromancer who looks like a gay uncle?

Or maybe the Arabian assasin or the beastly dragon lady..?

Who is it exactly? 🤣

It does have fantasy characters... Dwarf, elf, necromancer (basically a dark mage), and dragon Lady.

Uh... Dwarves were always very stocky. They weren't ever thin. They were more chubby/muscular. Dragon people can be beastly. Lately, they've been trending towards the sexy monster woman. Though I'm fine with a monster race looking like actual monsters, or a beastly race looking like actual beasts. Mages aren't exactly known for being masculine...

"BG3 had some traditional characters... DA:VG has none"

Man this is cringey, it reads like alt-right parody. "How can characters be part of 'traditional' fantasy if they aren't the ethnicity I want to see?!" Like Jesus, have a little self-awareness.

First of all, the two main returning characters are fighter dwarf and evil wizard elf, both white dudes, so there isn't any real merit to this claim.

And second, it's kind of funny you referenced BG3 as a contrast earlier, because that game is the gayest and most inclusive game this side of Dream Daddy. So when you say things like "necromancer who looks like a gay uncle" I'm over here thinking "but that's literally just Astarion and Gale?"

Or we can go further back into BG2, 20 years ago, and I can think "but that's literally just Edwin?"

So was it "traditional" in BG2 when they have a plot point for Edwin that made him a woman for a while, in one of the most iconic and universally praised fantasy RPGs of all time?

What exactly is it you mean by "traditional fantasy characters" anyway? Fantasy is much broader than Tolkein.

I have to ask, can you only enjoy a story if it's LOTR style and every fellowship member is a straight white man? Or can you only enjoy it if it's set exclusively in an Anglo-Saxon country with none of the international migration that high-fantasy technology, like teleporting and airships, would allow for?

Please elaborate.

The fact your defending this trash is cringe. You can have different ethnicities but to go full DEI is one thing.

Who Varric? He's not a main character in this and Solas is a villian. Try again.

BG3 allows you to play how you want and while Astarion carries himself as bi Gale really doesn't. Regardless you could play the game however you wanted.

I'm not demanding all straight white men but they don't even have ONE and the female NPC's are all hideous. Ignore the elephant in the room all you want but the general public is aware.

If I had a fantasy story based off Asian myth and had 1 Asian character you clowns would be having meltdowns.

@silentchief: The only thing the general public is aware of is how racist you are after you just outed yourself 🤣🤣🤣

That words means nothing coming from people like you 🤣

Look at the ratio on the trailer the game is DOA.

It must mean nothing to you because it's part of your daily life, like calling the sky blue. 😂🤣

I never argued the game would be good, but your argument that it's because of diversity is second-hand embarrassing especially when you try and contrast it with BG3, probably the 'wokest,' most inclusive AAA RPG ever. Like come on now, be reasonable.

No it means more when you demonstrate it.😂🤣🤭

😂

No because that's all people like you do. There is no critical think from your type.

I also didn't compare it to BG3 , Pedro did I was simply stating even BG3 got certain things right that this game can't.

If you think this is good for gaming

Then you are emberassing yourself. And there's no doubt these characters were created using something similar.

We have a well being made with this level of digging 🤣

Just shut up and consume next product 🤣

Bruh, what's to critically think about? You literally said they aren't "traditional" fantasy characters because of their races, with no irony. Have you ever looked at anything you post? Just take the L, this is so weak even for you.

I know this is hard to believe but white men are a minority of the world's population and in an increasingly global gaming market it's laughable to assume every single game with more than 1 black man is some elaborate conspiracy. Games like BG3 have proven that inclusive culture can be very successful and is, in fact, good for gaming.

@silentchief: I don't have issues with the game, you are the triggered one.🤭

Again coming from a rabbid progressive who eats up this ESG slop that means nothing. Your side has been posting massive L's repeatedly and you're going to do it again after this game tanks.

They are not a minority when it comes to fans of the fantasy genre. You are also gas lighting. This cast has a single white male character in its entire roster. This comes off as forced and anyone outside of rabbid activist see it the same way. It's not that non white characters exist it's that no effort is put into showing the different cultures. Someone came in with a diversity tool and hit every checkbox they could and you come in defending it 🤣.

This will be Saints row all over again so we will see how " good for gaming " it is.

You have issues with people criticizing it.

You sound like a corporate shill. 🤣

It's truly pathetic how hard you're grasping and still wrong. Can't even deny you're racist you just claim it's coming from people who "eats up this ESG slop." But again, you literally made a wrong claim based solely on the character races.

Yes, they are a minority in fantasy too. Or do you think Europe invented fantasy? Big yikes.

And it's amazing you're claiming I'm gaslighting while lying, when the cast actually has 3 white men and you're just lying to excuse your racist bullshit. Granted one is the antagonist, but you literally have to say one of them "looks gay" so you can ignore his existence. That's the very height of stupid nonsense.

You owned yourself and now you are doing your best to no drown by your own foolery.

Yup DEIGON LGBTQGAURD = No Buy

@Pedro said:

@silentchief said:

@Pedro said:

@silentchief: I don't have issues with the game, you are the triggered one.🤭

You have issues with people criticizing it.

You sound like a corporate shill. 🤣

You owned yourself and now you are doing your best to no drown by your own foolery.

Keep coping 🤡.

Ohh I can't wait for your glorious meltdown when this tanks bioware 🤣

Should we guess your excuse now?

Coping with what exactly?😂 A game that I have no issue with? Meanwhile, you are having a meltdown because their a non white folks in the game and because of that you are hoping the game fails. You exposed yourself with little effort on my end and you are too dim to realized you have been played.🙃

After 10 years, BioWare is finally letting you kiss Lace Harding, the dwarven scout who acts as your initial eyes and ears whenever your character uncovers a new area in Dragon Age: Inquisition. Though you can flirt with her numerous times and establish a strong rapport with Harding, she is not a romantic option in Inquisition--she's not even an official companion. That all changes in Dragon Age: The Veilguard--previously titled Dreadwolf--as Harding is not only one of the seven recruitable companions in the game, but she's a romance option, too.

Harding is, without a doubt, one of the best parts about Inquisition. Sarcastic and playful, she's willing to trade a few verbal barbs with the Inquisitor if the two establish a bond, and she's a bright and shining spot even during Inquisition's darkest moments, sticking with you and the Inquisition no matter where you choose to go. Fans have been pining for the cute dwarf ever since Inquisition launched in 2014, and I've often wished she could have had a larger part to play in Dragon Age's story. So I was pleasantly surprised to learn that she'll be a major player in the fourth Dragon Age game.

" all of the companions in The Veilguard are pansexual and don't seem to have any racial preferences--you can smooch them regardless of who your character, Rook, is--so long as you raise your relationship status high enough."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dragon-age-the-veilguard-rights-inquisitions-greatest-sin/1100-6524187/

Thank God, finally

We did it! Good work bois! 👏

@dimebag667 said:

@sargentd said:

After 10 years, BioWare is finally letting you kiss Lace Harding, the dwarven scout who acts as your initial eyes and ears whenever your character uncovers a new area in Dragon Age: Inquisition. Though you can flirt with her numerous times and establish a strong rapport with Harding, she is not a romantic option in Inquisition--she's not even an official companion. That all changes in Dragon Age: The Veilguard--previously titled Dreadwolf--as Harding is not only one of the seven recruitable companions in the game, but she's a romance option, too.

Harding is, without a doubt, one of the best parts about Inquisition. Sarcastic and playful, she's willing to trade a few verbal barbs with the Inquisitor if the two establish a bond, and she's a bright and shining spot even during Inquisition's darkest moments, sticking with you and the Inquisition no matter where you choose to go. Fans have been pining for the cute dwarf ever since Inquisition launched in 2014, and I've often wished she could have had a larger part to play in Dragon Age's story. So I was pleasantly surprised to learn that she'll be a major player in the fourth Dragon Age game.

" all of the companions in The Veilguard are pansexual and don't seem to have any racial preferences--you can smooch them regardless of who your character, Rook, is--so long as you raise your relationship status high enough."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dragon-age-the-veilguard-rights-inquisitions-greatest-sin/1100-6524187/

Thank God, finally

We did it! Good work bois! 👏

We made it!! 🙌

You are having a meltdown because it's being ratioed into Oblivion 😂. Of course you don't have an issue with it because you desperately want it to succeed. You didn't play anyone . I am not afraid to say what I said hence why I said it.

Expose me? ! 🤣🤣🤣

I've called shit like this out for years where have you been? 🤣

Lmao, but apparently I'm really digging... these people live in their own bubble completely detached from reality.

It's honestly just embarrassing