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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Good news, that game franchise people stopped giving a shit about a long time ago is back instantly driven into the ground by EA from a has-been developer is back. With no gameplay and diverse elfs and shit. Even has an asain one. Crazy.

Hype? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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#2 Pedro
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Love it. Can't wait to play.

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#3 Silentchief
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Yea it looked terrible. This is make or break for Bioware and it looks like this may be what closes them down.

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#4 Sushiglutton
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The trailer didn’t have enough information either way. I’m mostly interested in how it plays and also how grindy it will be.

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#5 DaVillain  Moderator
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I need to see more of Dragon Age: Veildguard before I make the final judgment rather I want to support Bioware. And I struggle with Inquisition last-gen as it is. If this game flops, I personally don't expect Bioware to stay longer or even before they can start with Mass Effect 4.

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#6 R4gn4r0k  Online
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It did give off some mobile game vibes, which I wasn't liking.

But as others have said, it's way too early to draw any major conclusions.

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#7 uninspiredcup
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@R4gn4r0k said:

It did give off some mobile game vibes, which I wasn't liking.

But as others have said, it's way too early to draw any major conclusions.

This is exactly what was thinking.

And it's EA so it probably will be one, except £80

Remember in the OG when EA put in a NPC at the base camp that sells you DLC? Those wacky fuckers.

Either way, cringe Resetera vibes. Not buying this shit. (not racist)

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#8 Djoffer123
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Not sure how you got wokeness from that trailer though, but guess some people are just ready to loose their shit over everything these days….

Than being said, it looked pretty terrible and I have zero faith in BioWare these days, the BioWare that was my favorite developer is unfortunately loooong dead…. Thanks EA!

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@uninspiredcup said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

It did give off some mobile game vibes, which I wasn't liking.

But as others have said, it's way too early to draw any major conclusions.

This is exactly what was thinking.

And it's EA so it probably will be one, except £80

Remember in the OG when EA put in a NPC at the base camp that sells you DLC? Those wacky fuckers.

Either way, cringe Resetera vibes. Not buying this shit. (not racist)

I mean yeah, I'm also feeling this trend that AAAAA publishers are looking at ways to just sell mobile games to us for £80

Heck SuSquad was exactly that. And I tried that Skull & bones free week thingamajig for a few hours and I couldn't escape the feeling either.

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#10 pmanden
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I like what I saw. The only thing I am truly worried about is that the trailer kind of sets the tone for fast, action-oriented gameplay. I want strategy as in Origins.

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#11 Macutchi
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got first showing of redfall vibes from it

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#12  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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Shit series no one care about now is Woken !!!.

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@ghosts4ever said:

Shit series no one care about now is Woken !!!.

It was asleep?

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#14  Edited By BassMan  Online
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Wokeness aside, I didn't like the vibe of the trailer. Looked like some hero shooter trash or something.

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#15 nintendoboy16
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Yay... the W word. That's a sign to take this seriously... /sarcasm

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#16  Edited By Chutebox
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Dunno about the game, it'll probably suck,but the trailer was absolutely terrible.

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#17 SargentD
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Bad trailer

The tone of the game comes across as cartoony

Feels wrong, first 2 orgins games I liked, but they had a very gritty tone to them.. not this bubble gum stuff

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#18  Edited By Nirgal
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Dragon age has always felt very woke to me. Since at least the second.

I can't say for sure, because I haven't played the series, but from the trailers and let's play all the characters design always seem super gay.

I don't think gay is bad, but it's not what draws me to a game so have always skipped them.

Still, I don't think this is new.

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#19 Nirgal
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@sargentd: it feels like saints row, specially with all the purple.

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#20 Pedro
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Damn! Folks ate up the prompt.😂

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I don't trust Bioware with their games these days.

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#22 lundy86_4
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Couldn't even finish Inquisition. DA:O was excellent, and 2 was fairly solid but nowhere near the first. After that... Meh.

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#23  Edited By Pedro
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@lundy86_4: I found the first one uninteresting. I tried playing it several times and each time I found something else to play.😂 To be fair I played it past the hype. 2 storyline was so dumb and Inquisition was fine.🤷🏽‍♂️

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#24  Edited By lundy86_4
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@Pedro: Different strokes and all that. I preferred the first due to the gameplay and story. 2 100% suffered with regards to story and just being hyper-focused (been years since I played). Inquisition was 100% fine, but just didn't rope me in... Tried a few times and just kept moving on.

Will give the new game a shot, but literally zero hype because Bioware/EA. Plus the trailer... Ehhh.

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#25 Pedro
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@lundy86_4: The trailer didn't give any meaningful direction for what the game would be like but I look forward to seeing what they do this time around. Bioware hasn't released anything for a while.

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@Pedro said:

Damn! Folks ate up the prompt.😂

Wut?

@lundy86_4 said:

Couldn't even finish Inquisition. DA:O was excellent, and 2 was fairly solid but nowhere near the first. After that... Meh.

Same, I've really struggled to even attempt to finishing Inquisition when it came out. Back during the early days of the 8th gen, it was hailed as the best RPG due to there was barely any good RPG games at the time.

I don't have any love for this franchise other than Dragon Age: Origins, this trailer didn't exactly win me over. I do need to see more of it before I write it off.

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#27  Edited By lundy86_4
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@davillain: I tried to stick with Inquisition and probably put in a dozen hours or so on seperate occasions, but just couldn't keep it up. Inquisition was just a bit of a drag amongst other games.

As for this game, the trailer definitely didn't inspire confidence. Like Ragnarok said, gives off mobile vibes.

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#28 lundy86_4
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@Pedro: Nope, not really any direction for the game. Just don't hold high hopes. As for Bioware, I liked the Mass Effect Legendary series, but Anthem and ME: Andromeda just really kinda shit the bed for me personally.

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#29  Edited By lamprey263
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Never got into Dragon Age, but I might start now. Anyhow, they're showing more off in a couple days. Trailer says gameplay premiere June 11th.

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#30  Edited By SargentD
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@nirgal said:

Dragon age has always felt very woke to me. Since at least the second.

I can't say for sure, because I haven't played the series, but from the trailers and let's play all the characters design always seem super gay.

I don't think gay is bad, but it's not what draws me to a game so have always skipped them.

Still, I don't think this is new.

Dragon Age origins 1 and 2 had grit to them, they also had a more serious violent tone to them.

This new trailer is cringe

Just compare the tone of these 2.

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This new game don't really even look like a dragon age game to me

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#31 UItravioIence
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The whole vibe is throwing me off. Art work is so bad

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#32 Pedro
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@uitravioience said:

The whole vibe is throwing me off. Art work is so bad

What makes the art work bad?🤔

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#33 Miquella
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Looks like a trailer for a hero shooter game

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#34 Nirgal
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@Pedro: if think it's how stylized it is. It reminds me of dishonored in that sense.

Also could be the bright colors and the Marvel movie like presentation.

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#35  Edited By Nirgal
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@sargentd: maybe I am taking that impression from the 3rd game.

But the franchise did felt kind of gay to me. Not in a derogative way, just meaning as attending to the sensitivities of gay people.

Pd: oh wait after seeing the trailer for dragon age 2, I know where I am getting it from. It's from the way the dwarf dresses, showing his chest like he was shirtless. That was one of the reasons I always thought it aimed towards a gay audience.

I think dragon age inquisition kind of reinforced that for me afterwards. They always show this bald elf that looks very feminine.

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#36 pyro1245
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No other series of games have taken such a phenomenal shit like DA.

Shame too. Origins was a great game. World and lore was really cool and the real-time pause battles were fun. The sequel shit all over it. Inquisition was a hilariously bad fkn game.

Biggest pile of garbage in gaming and woke isn't on the list of whys. Dragon Age is irredeemable.

I can get down with diverse elves tho. Why should elves all look the same when humans are so fkn weird?

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#37 Archangel3371  Online
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I really enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins and Inquisition. The second game was good but had a lot of repetitive looking places in the game which dragged it down. Thought the combat was pretty fun. This new game has a different looking art style then I was expecting but I still think it looks ok. Definitely need to see more on the game but I’m hoping that it turns out well.

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#38 Pedro
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@nirgal said:

@Pedro: if think it's how stylized it is. It reminds me of dishonored in that sense.

Also could be the bright colors and the Marvel movie like presentation.

That doesn't make artwork bad.

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#39  Edited By Vaasman
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Now it's just a CG trailer with no gameplay or anything but that really did nothing for me. Weird art and trailer pacing means I've already forgotten every one of these characters and have no real concept for what the story and game will be. It looked like some throwaway mobile game's trailer.

With the game being vaporware for near a decade, they need to do a lot better showing this off than that, otherwise I'll just shrug and go play more BG3.

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@Pedro: my fault for saying bad artwork.. it's just not what I like...looks too "Saturday Morning" cartoon kind of vibe.

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#41  Edited By Nirgal
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@uitravioience: I get what you mean though.

It looks like some executives saw Fortnite and went: clearly the kids these days like cartoonish colorful graphics, that will probably make us more money.

Maybe someone there complained that the art was not consistent with previous versions, but nobody cared because dragon age has not been consistent in anything across its iterations.

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#42  Edited By Litchie
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Tried a Dragon Age once, think it was the first one. It sucked. And that's the one people say is the best.

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This is straight up mobile aesthetic they got going. And you know what? It makes perfect sense. Remember how this game was supposed to be a GaaS game, and then EA "allowed" Bioware to make a singleplayer title after Anthem bombed? You thought they were just gonna throw away all these dogshit mobile assets? Of course not. So this is very obviously an art direction that was originally created to be colorful and goofy to please the Fortnite crowd (lots of GaaS/mobile games do this. its low effort and easier to bait kids to try their POS), and we're now stuck with it. I say **** off, Bioware. You're an irrelevant studio. You have been replaced by the real Bioware, they're called Larian.

Expecting this to be in high 60's to very low 70's on meta. Bomb in sales, and shitload of people fired. This is the future of this developer.

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#44  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@sargentd said:

Bad trailer

As meh as this is, argue this is still one of the worst trailers ever made.

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They knew the audience for this was DnD nerds, so some dickhead EA marketing person tried to "cool it up", with max cringe effect.

Ohhh look kidz, we got da Music Band (tm), gotza da bloods, you like that right? Ohhhhh sex! Look.

This isn't for geeks. Honest.

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#45  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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I really enjoyed inquisition. More so than even the first dragon age. At first glance, this has me worried. The art design feels woefully off and it doesn't feel like a connection to inquisition... The trailer showed off characters like a 5x5 hero shooter too which is painful.

Do you think developers played single player games in their youth or are they just making things up as they go?

Still, show me gameplay so I can make a more educated guess at how well this game is shaping up.

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#46 TheEroica  Moderator
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@hardwenzen said:

This is straight up mobile aesthetic they got going. And you know what? It makes perfect sense. Remember how this game was supposed to be a GaaS game, and then EA "allowed" Bioware to make a singleplayer title after Anthem bombed? You thought they were just gonna throw away all these dogshit mobile assets? Of course not. So this is very obviously an art direction that was originally created to be colorful and goofy to please the Fortnite crowd (lots of GaaS/mobile games do this. its low effort and easier to bait kids to try their POS), and we're now stuck with it. I say **** off, Bioware. You're an irrelevant studio. You have been replaced by the real Bioware, they're called Larian.

Expecting this to be in high 60's to very low 70's on meta. Bomb in sales, and shitload of people fired. This is the future of this developer.

I don't disagree. If dragon age isn't an actual BioWare game then it's gonna be lights out.

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#47 uninspiredcup
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@TheEroica: You'll have to wait for the premier, of the gameplay. This was a prequel to the premier. The prelude.

Because.

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@uninspiredcup: Everything in their power to sterilize us before the micro transactions start.

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@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

This is straight up mobile aesthetic they got going. And you know what? It makes perfect sense. Remember how this game was supposed to be a GaaS game, and then EA "allowed" Bioware to make a singleplayer title after Anthem bombed? You thought they were just gonna throw away all these dogshit mobile assets? Of course not. So this is very obviously an art direction that was originally created to be colorful and goofy to please the Fortnite crowd (lots of GaaS/mobile games do this. its low effort and easier to bait kids to try their POS), and we're now stuck with it. I say **** off, Bioware. You're an irrelevant studio. You have been replaced by the real Bioware, they're called Larian.

Expecting this to be in high 60's to very low 70's on meta. Bomb in sales, and shitload of people fired. This is the future of this developer.

I don't disagree. If dragon age isn't an actual BioWare game then it's gonna be lights out.

I don't think its a matter of "if" anymore. In fact, i am predicting important folks at the studio to be leaving some months before the game launches, same as what we've seen with DICE and their BF2042 and Rocksteady and the Suicide Squad. If we're seeing this, be certain that the game is a disaster.

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#50 TheEroica  Moderator
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@hardwenzen: ill maintain an "if" until they show gameplay and give scope to the game. What I saw in the trailer made me feel like it was a new ip, high fantasy version of fortnite and that is flaccid city.